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"Being in Nature reminds us of our symbiotic relationship with it, our need to dominate it must be exchanged with our desire to work with it and understand the delicate balance of actions we take"

I love this quote, along with your deep and sensitive connection with nature and its guidance. There so much to learn from the journey and you write beautifully!

If we could all learn to walk in symbiotic harmony, the world would be glorious for all creatures, great and small. The history of conservation/environmentalism unfortunately is full of people who may have had an appreciation for nature not for their fellow kindred human beings, and although I know most of my friends and fellow sub stackers who quote some of them are well intentioned, it hurts me in a deep way I cannot fully explain. I feel it so much as an empath I sometimes react harshly to it. So I will try to be as gentle as I can.

The history of the conquering of what is now understood to be The United States is filled with people who did horrible things in the name of beautiful things. I learned this year about The Doctrine of Christian Discovery - these legitimized the taking of the persons, places and things of Indigenous Peoples of what we now call the Americans and what is known to many Indigenous Peoples as Turtle Island. John Muir and many other environmentalists/conservationists had a deep appreciation of nature - while denigrating the original peoples who knew far better than colonizers how to care for her in the beautiful ways you describe us as being symbiotic. Here is an article I think is very generous to John Muir: https://www.sfpublicpress.org/john-muir-racial-politics-and-the-restoration-of-indigenous-lands-in-yosemite/

I know your motives are pure and I didn't know about any of this til recently either. I see a continuing genocide happening of the Indigenous Peoples the world over and it breaks my heart. It's not a past tense thing. So I am really sensitive about this issue because I feel like when people quote John Muir, it kind of sends an unconscious message that he stands for goodness, when really he stands for, in my opinion, a privileged white man who was on a journey like we all are, who fucked it up a lot, learned a lot and yet never took the steps to put the land back where it should belong: In indigenous hands. I have "vibe based" pet peeves against numerous others who are popularly quotes whom I have sleuthed out and one I cannot peg down but I know in my deepest gut he is bad news yet some of the finest people adore him. It's hard to know what you know and have others not see it. It can feel lonely. There are lots of things I don't know that others do that I am learning from others, too. I love your appreciation for beauty and for wanting us all to live in a state of joy and appreciation and wonder. My criticism of the quote and John Muir has absolutely nothing to do with you or your beautiful writing. I feel that when those quotes are used they are an endorsement of that person as an icon/inspirational figure that unconsciously gives our consent to the more subtle forms of genocide of indigenous peoples that continue.

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Karafree's avatar

Thank you so much for posting!!!!

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