Something Demi posted this morning in her memes I think highly relevant here is the quote by Tesla. "My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core,
but I know that it exists." If a man of his intellect hadn’t figured it out, then we should understand the difficulty of the task.
yes LIFE is a mystery, but the answers are available, and he acknowledges that there is some Source to LIFE, that is responsible for all. What I am pointing to in these ponderings of mine, is how much is really right there for us to see, but we can't because of conditioning, and purposeful lies. There is a lot of mystery surrounding the man Tesla. This idea that the brain is a receiver, points to the idea that the body, all bodies are AVATARS. exploring in a creation.
What we see around us is important. The terrestrial, solar, and cosmic energies involved are huge, interrelated, and self-perpetuating. Subject to stimulus and response. Both positive and negative feedback loops on many levels. We as a part of this interplay are important also. And we act to either contribute, amplify, dampen, or withdraw energy. If as you say, love is the opposite of fear, love is the opposite of evil, and love is represented as positive energy and beneficial feedback (I think we have ample evidence of that) and fear the opposite, then we exist in sort of a stasis. One must balance the other for stasis to occur. We sometimes mis-label the negative feedback and attendant results evil. But in reality they are necessary for balance.
And we put all this in context of our mind point of view. A construct to make sense of it all. A construct that is mostly given to us and can be manipulated by those with proclivity to do so. There certainly are humans wanting to do that. And have done so. It would certainly be possible that other entities would do likewise. But they are also part of that energy flow. Probably with greater understanding of interconnections and ultimate purpose. Yet they themselves are bit players in the grand scheme. This construct actually forms part of a mind model. It is either accepted as is or can be modified. Adjusted to suit tasks at hand. Or wholly rejected and replaced. And that is what enlightened beings would do. Trauma may be needed but not necessarily required to open that path. And once open, notice the trauma recedes in importance.
We humans try to assign too much value to our role here on earth and within the biome. But in reality we are in balance here just like any other organism. We live, die, return our borrowed matter to be recycled. All life depends on energy. Whether internal to geological, or chemical, or exogenous by light or cosmic energies. And it may be argued that geological and chemical reactions may be triggered by electrons, magnetism, or emanations from whatever source. Stasis can be maintained regardless of the amount of energy in total. Growth requires energy input. Disrupt the flow and death follows. Disrupt the balance and instability, possible collapse happens.
To nature we are just like any other organism. Be it bacteria, fungus, parasite. Some are useful. Some are not. There are plenty of examples throughout history where humans have lived in balance, even improving the local biosphere. Of course there are ample counter examples too. History is a great teacher. Nature and history transcend our short time here. Thus they are a foundation we should revere and always look to for guidance.
I always struggled with defining evil. For years I questioned its existence. Mainly because I had a hard time reconciling my Christian upbringing. Those teachings were contradictory and just did not fit my developing understanding of the world. Now I just define it as intentional acts to disrupt balance and life. You could call it anti-life I suppose. Be it against nature or nature’s inhabitants. Including human. So I don’t assign too much thought to it other than it exists in some balance with nature. And you encounter it occasionally or it may be pervasive. At times it can be powerful and definitely ruin your day. So best to be aware and have robust defense as best you can. The experience of pain would trigger a fear response. An important defense mechanism. And best not ignorred. But not to be obsessed. Unfortunately it can be co-opted the serve other interests.
Perhaps the earth serves as a node, or carrier wave in the grand scheme of the cosmos. Analogous to a resistor or capacitor in a circuit storing or releasing energy. And we are nothing more than perturbations on the wave. Noise. But there is still a huge amount of organization and energy in that noise, therefore it is important. We are energetic coding in that flow. Always there waiting for the right trigger to manifest and interact for good or evil, until an interaction occurs to send us back on the wave. A continuous interplay of life and death (in our construct terminology). Our bodies are biomechanical suits to interact with the energies already here in earth. Not quite a simulation as we have agency and we are materially real. As real as the rocks and trees.
Thank you for the thoughtful response. a lot to think about here. A short response is that we are in a place of tremendous imbalance. Evil seems to be a very deliberate interference to the Flow of life. We are at the point where this evil desires to control all life, towards the point of extinction of all life. The end of the Creative flow of life. What concerns me most is the very purposeful implementation of extreme suffering unleashed on the living beings of this world, destroying all life, and all potential. There is no reverence for life, but rather a push towards total dominance over life, and the stealth of all the resources that were so generously gifted to life in order to see its onward flow of discovery of infinite possibility.
Tremendous imbalance is a valid assessment. And it could lead to instability and collapse. But I look at the tremendous energies of the universe and feel confident that on some level the balance that the universe intends will occur. Unfortunately it may not be on our node.
Thank you Kara 🙏 More excellent questions. You take inquiry into the nature of reality into the next level and some 🙏💜🙏 I'd be lying if I said that these questions you ask I haven't asked myself.
I found my answers not in one place but, like you, in a million different places, such as the teachings of Hermes Trismegistus and the Emerald Tablets, I Ching, Lao Tzu, Tarot, Qabala, MBT, Stoicism, Quantum Physics, Sri Aurobindo, Paul Selig and The Guides, Jane Roberts and Seth Speaks, Buddhism, Christianity... As I say, a million different places.
My need to be "right" overcame my need to be "love"in the process, as my right brain overcame the left in an endless search that supplied endless theories and more endless questioning but, in the final analysis, analysis itself was found to insufficient because it lead to never ending enquiry.
I was chasing my own tail like the snake that eats eats itself. It was only when I learned to let Go and let God, that I could let it all come together of its own accord, in deep meditation. By sitting and letting everything just be.
In this, at last, I came into the rythms of my own inner knowing, and intuitively settled these questions within my higher self, Monad, Christ Consciousness. As within so without, the answer is inside you. You have the answer that you seek. You've always had it. The nature of Reality is the nature of You. Love is the answer 🙏💜🙏
Hi Elliot, Sounds like we have explored many of the same works. Through the shared ideas of other people, we pick up things we resonate with and things we do not. We keep moving along of course, because, well for me they do not answer anything fully. I don't see it chasing my tail, but continually exploring possibility, and opening my own perception. Many of these "teachers" those who share their perspective of reality, can actually limit us. I Ultimately Feel that LIFE is INFINITE POSSIBILITY. I look into the Nature of evil, because I see it as a disruption of the flow of life, which seems to be purposefully implemented in order to KEEP US FROM OUR TRUE POTENTIAL. I am not willing to settle for the idea that the evil we are seeing manifest in the world is actually a part of Nature, it is certainly not a part of me. I do actually find John St Julien's work helpful, because he is addressing the fallen world thrust on us, likely against our will, through what he describes as Alien Technology. I do know the answer is Ultimately inside of me, These essays are to show that evil is NOT the PLAN of the Creator, and for me the suffering of the innocent, especially the children needs to be NOTICED, taken serious, and dealt with.
Thank you Kara 🙏💜🙏 We agree on this and if you have the impression that I am refuting what you are saying, then I have failed to make myself clear. There is an evil matrix reality overlaying the true divinely created and sacred matrix reality that Is. They have been enmeshed together by evil forces that do not want us to live in our truth. We are born into the false matrix and must free ourselves of it to know ourselves as sacred and divine. Our innate divinity within our most pure love transmutes the negative energetic parasites embedded within our consciousness, to sanctify our awareness and to give us the discernment to distinguish good from evil. By this I do not mean the corrupted topsy turvy ideas that permeate three dimensional awareness. I'm speaking of higher consciousness unencumbered by false belief, ego and fear. Love is the answer because it's resonant properties raises the frequencies of consciousness to the point where we can do this. 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you again for a powerful, honest, and provocative post.
Some of the realizations that you communicate are deeply, essentially Gnostic in nature, and while Gnostics never claimed to have THE definitive view of life, and still don't, there is much in the Gnostic explanation that can reduce the sense of powerlessness that seems to accompany suffering.
For one, the world, you, everything is very real. There is no need to dismiss or deny, because the experience of reality simply affirms itself.
For two, meaning is situational, it can be assigned, denied, removed according to any mental set one approves of.
For three, there is a savage, undeniable requirement to suffering, and that is that life must simply pit itself against impossible obstacles. There is no moral equivalent, no divine battle of good vs evil, there is the struggle, and it is fucking intense.
one thing I can relate to in what you are saying is that EVERYTHING IS VERY REAL. EVEN if it is some kind of simulation, our participation in it makes it real, and I know I certainly FEEL it all, I certainly engage in it. And yes there is that objective or subjective aspect, as I mentioned, and I do think we have the power by our approval and focus on it.. You know, that saying What you focus on grows, what you resist persists.. there is something very TRUE about that.
Well, it's that situation that we EAT each other to LIVE.. that undeniable requirement to suffering.. In this case as you suggest no battle between good and evil, there is the struggle and its fucking intense, would suggest that the Universe is random and this is JUST how it evolved.
I wouldn't say exactly random, because random suggests something from a modern "scientific" hypothesis, whereby reality is limited to a physical explanation, and power, intelligences become imaginary.
Perhaps the idea should go something similar to this: the cosmos exploring its potential, and that potential exists beyond perceived limits, because the scope of this cosmos is defined by a parent, a source, and not by itself.
Some might think this lends creedence to the simulation theory of existence. I do not think that this is necessarily the case, and I am withdrawing any support I might have given to this idea primarily because it suggests a trivial nature to existence, where nothing here is taken seriously. If simulation theory was correct, the joke would be on all of us.
For some people I'm sure the removal of all impediments to their urges and impulses would be a desired state, but the cosmos doen't do that either. In a simulation it is contradictory to care, or get involved with anything, because nothing has any real agency.
If, instead of a simulation one was to see the descent from Source as a series of steps, and that each successive step is inferior to that which birthed it, one arrives at the mystical gnosis of a universe full of life and intelligence, but also one which develops greater limitation as it descends to its final reflection of what is above.
Therefore maybe we need the impact of a meaningless hell hole in order to remember that this place is a result, not a cause. Perhaps we need the cruel suffering to actually live the importance of love, to demonstrate viscerally how it can transform this stinkpot into a bed of flowers. The danger in all this is that it is so remarkably easy to just fall into the shit, just as this entire world has done. But if there isn't any risk there isn't any reward, and it becomes incumbent on us to refuse to sacrifice our humanity for hot ashes on a breeze.
"If there isn't any risk, there isn't any reward" That is a statement of beLIEf that I am tackling in these writings!. It is up to each of us to determine what rewards us in life and adventure. We do not need to design an adventure based on purposeful Risks meaning that we do not need risk to learn some thing, Risk is enjoyed by some as a challenge, I said "to be clear" I am not talking about this kind of challenge, Risk is a part of life naturally. Most people set out on their daily adventures doing their best to minimize risk. But none the less, no matter how much any of us try to protect ourselves, RISK is part of life. What I am pointing to goes way beyond risk and adventure. What I am pointing to is that we are presented with orchestrated challenges that seek to bring harm, unnecessary suffering and death. I know from my own experiences that I have gained reward and tremendous enjoyment without unnecessary risk involved.
Simulation theory makes sense on some level, but what I am pointing to is the TECHNOLOGY that we KNOW exists, and the technology that is hidden from us being used to deceive us. MIND CONTROL is their greatest weapon, to deceive us. it doesn't help that human perception is also very limited.
Simulation theory does not let us off the hook where responsibility is concerned, there are definitely rule sets. CAUSE AND EFFECT. Everyone of us is subject to the effect of our actions. Although, those who seem to run the world, and control the rest of us, SEEM to avoid the effects of their actions. materially speaking they are reaping all the benefits of their evil programs. while they commit mass murder, and create the PRISON walls that surround all of us.
They seem hell bent on manifesting their agenda, while enslaving us, they seem to be successful in having removed all impediments that would prevent them from their goals.
I always thought that Nature/the UNIVERSE doesn't give a you know what, if humans went extinct, it would carry on. But we certainly MUST care about Nature if we want to survive.
What is Source? Why would the inclination be to descend from Source, this sounds like the CONcept that Source had to know itself, to know it self it had to limit itself, it had to be something it is NOT... YET, SOURCE IS THE ALL, so that idea that it had to be what it is not... as in descend from itself does not make any sense. Another way to look at this is WHY Wouldn't Source move in the direction of infinite beauty, why did it take the route of pain and suffering?
The hellhole is not meaningless. The hellhole is the source of torment and suffering and for many, it is debilitating so that they have no chance of improving their own lives.
This idea that we need to learn lessons to grow would imply that Growth in these thousands of years of experimenting would have yielded something, BUT that is not the case. We are not learning. Well except that some of us are seeing the absolute DECEPTION of this programming that keeps us from our power to MAKE CHANGE.
What kind of Source is so depraved to destroy everything that it sent out to create? and in heinous ways to cause suffering so horrifying that it's SUBJECTS would fall into states of disassociation, and become incapable of knowing the self, and rising back up to their own Power?
They have programmed us to believe this is the Nature of reality, so that we all look away from the horror show and blame the victim for their circumstances.
I am lucky in the sense that I am not in a place of this kind of suffering, yet I see it out in the world and I see a very real cause. I see the perpetrators who are doing this to all living beings. The absolute focus on genocide... the desire to end LIFE as we know it. The plan to put an end to Human creativity, to capture and use it for their complete control over creation.
I do not believe we are in an illusion. What is happening is very real. But I can tell you that if this is really all a dream, the dream is not originating from my mind, or from the mind of most humans who wish only to experience love.
So like you say about the danger of falling into this stink pot is remarkably easy, It is not that it is easy, it has been forced upon us, by the STEALING of our power and the control of our minds through FEAR.
Like you I see the sacrifice of not only humanity but of all life, of all that is good, and I can't brush it off as my own ego trip, or that this is my lesson to learn... which would be what? to examine my own mind? to leave those to their lessons, to look away, to pretend that it isn't happening? To trick myself into thinking its just an illusion? BTW Illusion, simulation, what's the difference? Yet look how many embrace the concept that everything is an illusion, if you realize that you can sit back on your meditation blanket and will it away, then what is the point? If you can dream it away, then are you avoiding the lessons you came to learn, If you can determine that it is all just a dream, then are you voiding the lesson plan?
When you let it go in your own mind, it GOES AWAY in the WORLD, IS THAT TRUE?
Interesting, I do think we are talking about completely different world views here. I do think we understand that risk is very much an aspect of life?
Perhaps its been my experience, of what seems to me to be an inordinant amount of challenges. Risk is what makes mastery pleasurable, Kara.
Its ironic because of the way all this works, Zen on steroids.
If we are going to discuss the why's behind creation, we have to begin with some perspective, so I don't think we can begin with suffering, evil, pain. It is clear that such states are results of experience, not the very fabric of life. Given this, such states are inferior to creation itself. They are not ultimate principles.
The why behind creation is because source both exists and doesn't exist, lives and never lives. When seen in such a way, all of creation naturally just is when it is, it flows, but just as source is contradictory, so is creation.
Thus it is possible for there to be entire populations of higher and lower beings, all of whom are the intelligences of their own spheres, and these beings can experience fascination, and desire, and as the flow of emanation continues it becomes more limited, less aware, smaller, cthonic even.
So, it doesn't have to be the case that there is any meaning to suffering, pain, evil. In fact, I argue there isn't meaning to be found there, only meaning assigned, which is something else, yes?
Now, if we are going to bring in actual efforts by the over privileged in society to turn their fellow men into their playthings, I find it is a grave error to place this effort with the forces of creation.
You brought up MK-Ultra, which supposedly is done as an example. Well, there is nothing here that participates in the flow of emanation, it is its own dead end. This, and other examples exist because they mimic the more cthonic, the by-product. The evil and suffering they cause is again, very real, but it isn't because source endowed them with any special ability.
So, in the sense that this level of emanation is a result of a higher and more complete essence, one could, perhaps choose to describe it as a simulation, but this popular view cannot even begin to explain the interplay of life here, it just defers the explanation.
I don't believe I ever stated that life itself was a dream, that life was an ersatz experience, or that one could just wake up from it all. I have stated, and continue to state that dreams are real, and not everyone has them, but there is a difference between dreaming something into being, and life simply being a dream.
I agree that you did not state that life was a dream, and you do not think we are in a simulation either. I was reiterating my point being: "Life is a dream/illusion is a false beLIEf that many fall for." Looking at this belief is very important, when we look at how so few of us rise to change what we do not like, or what makes us suffer, could it be because, like you said, " Simulation theory suggests a trivial nature to existence, where nothing here is taken seriously. If simulation theory was correct, the joke would be on all of us."
I agree about the difference you point out, we are in a dream, compared to we have the ability to dream something into our existence, or what I call our creativity and our imagination.
Yes MK ULTRA, if I understand you correctly is an attempt to stifle true creativity and replace it with control, subjugation and stopping the natural flow.
We agree, the evil being caused by certain groups, does not come from Source, is not a plan, was not implemented in order to Learn Lessons, but rather stop the natural flow.
But even more important what is Source?
If there is no Source, then what is intending? What is dreaming? The Universe is just Flowing... Which means that no one came here to learn lessons under the directive of a Source Being.
I have said in many ways, that I do not think that EVIL was the original intention here, IF there is a SOURCE, which then brings me to the point I am continuing to make, that we are NOT here to Learn Lessons...the main point of my essay. So it appears that we agree on this as well.
So absolutely you and I agree that there is meaning ASSIGNED to the purpose of evil. I argue that it is a false and detrimental assignment/false belief that keeps us from the FLOW of our TRUE Nature as creative and imaginative beings. In Fact this kind of assignment requires us to accept our fate, and give up our power. This does not need a Source to make this true, it just needs a belief in a Source who would require this of us.
But, here is a thought about SOURCE. Source is a word we use when we imply that there is a creator of this universe/reality, and it had an intention to CREATE, for the purpose as many say, to know itself experientially. What exactly did source create? A simulation perhaps? A dream perhaps? An Illusionary world perhaps? A stage to act upon perhaps? Or a very REAL and vibrating ALIVE and AWARE Universe?
Speaking on the grave issue of the Over privileged, and their GAME plan;
If Source "created a 'playground'" is True, so be it, but, then it raises the question for me, Why did Source dream up and send in Subjects, players, living beings, Avatars, entities, Conscious unites of Energy, and then limit them and saddle them with an obligation to Learn lessons? This makes no sense!! What would make more sense, is that Source simply sent Unique players with specific scripts to act out. That would then imply that we do not have free will, but are following our script. Which, by the way is what astrology is all about. WHERE ARE WE PLAYING ALL THIS OUT? In an infinite Universe or on a stage within a simulation, in a dream? As a little girl I played with Barbies, and I acted out their Character, that I dreamed up and their lives for them, maybe I did have them learning lessons, or living a life I could only imagine to live, what a human mind right? Seriously, the MIND of a CHILD no less. Is this who Source is? A Human mind?
There do seem to be levels of Intelligence. These intelligences (if you can call them intelligent) Would use their intelligence to destroy what is less then, or what they deem unfit. They carry out these forms of genocide of the lesser intelligent through mind control, and creating scenarios that bring about great fear and suffering. There are MANY who do not wake up to the mind control they are subjugated to and continue to live in helpless and dire situations that are truly life sapping. So, in a sense, yes the flow of life and possibility is being tapped, weakened, stolen, limited, less aware as you point to. My study into this and why it happens points to an Intelligence that is deliberately bringing this about, for its benefit. An intelligence that I would not identify as an ALL KNOWING creative being we call Source. So once again I do think we agree, on this nature of evil, is a by product of inferior thinking processes, This has nothing to so with Source or absence of a Source Creator.
So, all I am saying about risk, is that While it is part of life, the levels that are being deliberately manufactured are not necessary for improvement or learning especially not to gain some reward. Risk is not a requirement to experience reward, reward can be experienced without first experiencing suffering and pain. I point to this idea that "pain is required to motivate and learn something, is false", and may be holding us back from realizing our true power. This concept was intentionally drilled into us, till it was deeply implanted into our sub conscious minds, and NOW many of us are creating scenarios where we actually seek out tribulation, to grow, and become Whole. When in Truth we were never broken.
Some of the issues we have with source derive from our need to personify it.
When we personify any potential, we invariably attach person-like motivations to them. Yet in truth, we never ask if this is a valid activity.
Do you know that in cultures that have discovered the Demiurge there is rarely a human representation? William Blake in the truly great Poem Tyger Tyger sure seemed to be illustrating this.
Ultimately, the ability of the human mind to create simulations is missing one key element, humans do not ever create agency in anything they make. Its always up to that human to provide that agency via participation. Even when the great Druid Math of Mathonwy co-created Blodduwedd from wild flowers, she descended into dissipation, mocking their efforts.
There is something about life that even the greatest of masters are helpless before.
We know that source is a genuine phenomenon because of this fact.
Ive had long conversations with those who claim there is no source, no cause, its just things being moved around. It makes me very sad to listen to such talk, even as I respect those who advance this, because it is utterly impossible for such a condition to exist.
However, within such a world view I detect a key to the thinking and belief behind the WEF, the alphabet agencies, the lust for unlimited abuse unleashed and control. I see a circuitry mind that imagines its godhood lies in better circuits.
In a sense, its no different, other than intype, from those who declare that life is a litany of lessons, just learn your lessons like a good little child and you will be rewarded!
Indeed.
We believe so much from dysfunctional world views we inherit.
So much of what people assume is fact is actually just explanation, and not often very good explanation. Abrahamic religion fits into this complex, and politics, and identity itself. If we could understand that our explanations are interpretations-at best, and not exalted fact, life here would change dramatically.
According to the people directing our LARP reality, God, after creating the world wanted to pour his divine light in 10 vessels. But silly God underestimated the force of his divine light so the vessels exploded and the contents scattered into his creation. Before they can return to God, all the light has to be freed and in their believe it is their task to free it from very dark and evil places. Redemption through sin.
I, the not-them, are just pawns to be directed, cattle without a soul, to be herded in any which way they please. They have given us two opposing religions; one of the sun and one of the moon and told both of them in their 'prophecies' that one must slay the other before their messiah will return. As we speak, the ones in control are playing out that script complete with officials paraphrasing from their 'holy' books and the gullible believers lap it up, having falling for the idea that things MUST get real bad before THEIR messiah will come. It makes them selfish and subdued, exactly as the ones directing our reality like their cattle to be.
I really can relate to this view.. the part about the LARP playing their parts and not even having a clue. the pawns... I think I am on the outside looking in on this Theater, yet I let my heart get dragged into it and I want to wake up the Live action roll players.. maybe the are NOT alive?
You are not outside, I am not outside; we are in it. Awake to some things, asleep to others but until we ACT upon what we know and stop participating as much is possible, we have become conscious LARP participants, aiding in our own destruction.
True ignorance really is bliss but to be aware and not act is creating a hell of our own making.
"True ignorance really is bliss but to be aware and not act is creating a hell of our own making."
That is the point of my essay. to ignore something that you can see is happening is allowing the HELL WORLD to continue. I just can't accept some of these "beLIEF" programs that suggest we ignore it, meditate it away, call it an illusion, determine that it is in the plans of some higher power.. and on and on with this reasoning, that NEVER stops this horror. The MK ULTRA mind control programming through the delivery of severe trauma that induces FEAR, which breaks down our power to respond correctly is victimizing all of us. The "state of mind and perception" that those who inflict these traumas want us to reach is DISASSOCIATION. This ALLOWS them to continue the attacks.
Yes, I agree with you completely. Sadly they are succeeding in pushing their state of apathy and I wonder where it will lead humanity. The only solution to this global problem is humanity taking power back in an selfless way. Understanding we need to care for the world and each other together, that selfish behaviour will damage the community/nature.
I agree with the others here: you ARE a writer!! I always love reading what you write to know what you're contemplating.
I'm at the point in my own pursuit of truth where I relinquish the need to know. I don't know where we are or why we're here. I do know that I follow my inner compass for guidance and it always leads me away from causing harm and towards creating, loving. and enjoying the pleasures our realm provides like beauty, nature, food, and laughter That's all I really know anymore. ❤️
Thank you Jacqueline for coming by and your interest, and your compliment, I guess it was a dormant talent, who knew..
GIRL!!! You got it going on!! I admire that about you. Your easy and peacefulness certainly shows. I too follow my inner guidance, always with the intention of creating beauty.
But as you can see, AS THEY SAY: "Just asking for a friend" LOL...
but who knows maybe it's my calling to help others in some way. and in turn give of my creative gifts too. I do know that you do this too in your own way. Your talents bring joy to others.
"I too follow my inner guidance, always with the intention of creating beauty."
GIRRRL!! I know you do! ;)
It was when I first saw your beautiful paintings that I really knew this about you. And then the amazing dog family you've created. Your heart is obviously HUGE.
Thank you for your admiration. That means a lot to me, my sister. ❤️
I'm of the mind that every single loving act one commits is 'helping others'.
Yes your talent brings joy to others I forgot to mention and me too.
I know what you are pointing to here... The day we met... the idea that where attention goes energy flows, and what you resist persists.. yes I think there is truth in all of this.. yet I think, some of us need to be thrown the life saver... let it hit them on the head and wake them up... LOL I also agree that every single act focused for the better, focused in love resonates out into the world and helps others. thank you for that reminder
You already have a clear idea of my thinking on suffering, both of human and non-human animals. There is nothing to be learned or gained from suffering of any form or degree, only that you want it to end. And soon.
Now, here is what I learned in my 66 years on Earth. Apart from diseases, illnesses and accidents, most suffering of human and non-human animals comes at the hands of humans. That's right: Humans.
That is my view, and it is supported by the history of wars, violence, aggression, torture, forced confinement, imprisonment that humans inflict on human and non-human animals. Inflicting poverty is another form of normalized violence, and so is discrimination of any form.
Both religion and secular beliefs and ideologies support and inflict suffering. It is a deeply rooted human problem. It is deeply ingrained in Humanity. The first solution is awareness of the human problem. Solutions can only come when recognition and awareness is globally understood. Seriously understood.
The answer is love, understanding, sympathy, sharing, cooperation. But Humanity is, for the most part, stuck in domination, exploitation and competition.
Yes I hear you loud and clear, and I agree. I was attempting to point out that our human failings are orchestrated, purposefully to remove our love and replace it with fear, through all these programs they inflict on us, and false beliefs that hypnotize us into a state of helplessness/weakness and then destroy our TRUE NATURE and creativity. Thank you for your comment Perry!
“ (Let me be clear…..” I am so glad you included this clarification because this has been my stumbling block in this discussion. So I can wholeheartedly agree with what you are sharing about suffering.
The sadistic Harlow experiments on infant rhesus monkeys come to mind. I learned about them in my psychology degree and at the time, was so disconnected from myself that I didn’t experience the horror of them…I was simply interested in the findings 🤪
Now, as a mature adult and mother it is a no brainer. Of course when electric shocked or threatened with electric shock, the infant is going to seek comfort over food. After centuries of life experience and passing down of culture and wisdom, we seriously need to do experiments like that!!! WTF!!!!
I studied psychology to learn more about human behaviour to make life better. But I have since learned the ways the knowledge has been used to control and manipulate. There was a moment I thought the field of psychology had been hijacked. But it seems increasingly clear that the funding and support for the discipline has had nefarious purposes from the beginning…not unlike engineering, chemistry, physics, biology etc
I am not certain of who the nefarious ones are…if we are in a simulation or something else…but like the Harlow experiments, I don’t think we need to examine it to know the truth . We already know what love is, what it looks and feels like. All we need to do is recognise what isn’t love when it is in front of us, and move away from it. The rest of the time cultivate the conditions around us and the people we know, for love to flourish.
I have had a recent awareness that I feel is related. I perceive that our world is only light. There is no darkness, only shadow. The light is always there, it is obstacles casting shadow that block the light.
I’m making this up as I go along, as I haven’t fully thought through this as an analogy for truth… but I am inclined to say, any form that casts a shadow is an obstacle to the light. I guess then, the characteristics or qualities of shadow give some clue to what the obstacle is…size, shape, orientation or proximity to the light, opacity, motion. Although the shadow is often much larger than the form that is the obstacle…giving the appearance of something much more ominous. Alternatively, a very large form in just the right orientation will cause little obstacle, casting a minimal shadow.
I’m having a flashback to my favourite childhood verse by Robert Louis Stevenson….
” I had a little shadow, that went in and out with me,
And what could be the use of him was more than I could see….”
I need to look the rest up and think on this some more 🤔
that's a cool poem, I take it to mean, that the shadow is a form of wrong thinking, of false beliefs being lived out as truth. When the shadow "stayed in bed" He saw the light that made the buttercups so beautiful. I think he is also pointing to a balance. He woke before the sun was up,,, He saw the shining dew . Sounds like a state of Harmony between both sides. Full light and full shadow. Very interesting,
What a beautiful and touching statement.. So true, you've given a perfect example of the false notion that we NEED to have these contrasts/opposites to KNOW what truth actually is. If only we could SEE the harm this kind of thought has allowed us to do to others in the name of learning. breaks my heart the suffering. Speaking of experiments, I mean, just think of the MK Ultra ones, or the Alfred Kinsey studies on infants and children and sexuality. Something that I contemplate, is that A creator ultimately KNOWS his full creation, so why allow this kind of abuse in the first place.. this is why we need to examine everything we have been told about Where we are , Why we are here and who we truly are.
I always like to be devil’s advocate. Because there are two sides here. And one side obviously feeds off the other’ sufferings. So that suffering is ….some people would say, energy on the negative downward that is needed to keep them going. Your suffering is some else happiness basically, that is how I understand “evil”. That happiness fills them up with joy. As you said at the beginning in the headline….then ….love creates a hateful world because there is "their” negative energy.
But if we look at nature there is suffering within its creatures and there is no good or bad there is just …..IS…other animals eaten by predators, nature destruction of flora and its fauna. If we look at nature and equal that to god then the entire creation is based on this mantra.
I mean then suffering actually begins with creation.
Also if I were a god “creator” I would not want experience anything but I would want my creation to experience what I already experienced and know. Like a parent. Would a parent want their children to suffer for no reason? Wouldn’t a parent want to promote a culture of love instead?
I think that way too. Only a parent void of Love would have that inclination to destroy the child. So these "beliefs" that we have about this reality really need to be examined, and that is what I am looking at. thank you for your comments
to me this type of person is living in fear and lacking in Love, has no compassion, or empathy, no response ABILITY to another because they have NO LOVE. which translates to me, no respect for life. As I said in my post:
We Came here to EXPERIENCE LOVE through the MEDIUM OF LIFE. without Love, life is destructive
love is not creating evil. the lack or absence of love is what brings about evil, FEAR brings about evil,
Your thought Suffering actually begins with creation is what I am tackling here. Suffering is an ill effect of lack of LOVE. I am suggesting that "suffering is creation" is a false belief. which leads to destruction of creation, the negative of creating
"I am not a writer so much, I may have to work on my ability to share my message, I can understand that I may be misinterpreted."
Kara, no - please don't ever doubt your ability to communicate this. And bringing words to this is important. You're still processing this data, and just like when you were crying in class and needed to process, that's this too - there is so much unprocessed passion and raw emotion coming through your words because you are still in the middle of processing, ironically, how this particular revelation is causing you to suffer with the pain of how heavy it is and the implications of that.
Keep writing and writing and writing about it. The more you release, the more you process, the clearer you will get until you distill your thoughts down to their core.
This is brilliant. And necessary. Your mind is NOT boxed in - you are equipped to see past the lies that keep us in check. Please keep going!!!! 🙏🏻💜💫
Yes, my goal is to be free of limits to the Creative potential that is within.. Within us all.. So powerful. So glad you see that too! once again too I was inspired by today's morning post of yours, regarding the benevolent Universe!
Sending you so much love!! Yeah, it's HARD to communicate what we're still processing but the raw emotion fuels the inspiration behind it - you will hit a sweet spot where your thoughts come into clearer focus if you just keep going. I promise.
You should look at some of my earlier pieces where I was flailing with 2020 anger and confusion. Oof.
But eventually I came around to a sort of detached clarity from which it makes it a lot easier to explain my thoughts without my own nervous dysregulation causing a dysregulation reaction in others that would make it somewhat impossible for them to really hear what I'm saying because they are too busy, at that point, dealing with their own emotions in having reacted to my emotions attached to what I said.
It creates a negative feedback loop. Communicating from a detached standpoint once you've processed it yourself has a way of providing a positive signal interrupt that stops the emotional looping and lets everyone come to the subject matter in a more open way.
There's a portal you will pass through into clarity if you just keep at this and let your emotions flow out as they resolve.
And good on you for having the courage to say things you know others are going to push back on!! I love it!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
There does appear to be an inordinate amount of fear mongering and threat of pain and suffering as a control mechanism in our history. It is also very tempting to frame this control mechanism as some form of alien or demonic source. I often go down those rabbit holes and ponder the possibility myself - I like to refer to such entities as The Archons and I believe that they are real in some sense, but cannot say for certain because it is a theory that I have not found any incontrovertible evidence for.
If we remove the 'reality' of such a theory and merely use the Archons as an allegory for evil, I think we can come to a more objective perspective on evil and the function it serves in our world.
If I understand what you are saying in this article correctly, it seems to me that you believe the evil and the suffering it causes are unnecessary - it is, in fact, a superfluous addition to all of the pain and suffering that is already part of life. I agree wholeheartedly with that sentiment - there absolutely are people who seem to get off on pain and fear and suffering, they like to push agendas that increase pain and suffering. These types of people can be described as demons, aliens, reptilians, shapeshifters, - whatever box you want to put them in, human or not, they have one defining characteristic - they appear to be driven by creating misery on this planet.
This comes down to a spiritual battle, a battle where you really do not know the enemy because they hide in the guise of regular people. They are very often people in positions of power who make grand claims of wanting to save the planet and serve humanity. The best we can do to defend ourselves and others against such people is to learn to identify them and their tactics and create counter defences to deter their nefarious agendas. Love, as you pointed out, is a powerful weapon in such a spiritual war. Knowledge is as well.
Frater Seamus, I am grateful for your comment, and your articulating what I am pointing to. When we identify that there are agendas working against us, We can turn to compassion for those who suffer rather than ignoring/blaming/reasoning, because they chose it. Archons, the controller of THOUGHT, who create the egregores we believe in and attach to and then act upon entangling us even more in false narratives, pulling us even farther from our Truth. Yes I think there is a battle for sure, a battle for life, a battle for our Spiritual integrity as well.
I think we are smarter and more capable then we know. And this is the case because as ive tried so many times to explain. Humans have been stockholmed.. Conditioned into helplessness and servitude. But I Know you know. I know you see what is going on. I also know what man has accomplished just look at what we are capable of creating. Now if only we could fully take back our focus and put it on what is good.
The Orwell quote at the top is incorrect.
Something Demi posted this morning in her memes I think highly relevant here is the quote by Tesla. "My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core,
but I know that it exists." If a man of his intellect hadn’t figured it out, then we should understand the difficulty of the task.
yes LIFE is a mystery, but the answers are available, and he acknowledges that there is some Source to LIFE, that is responsible for all. What I am pointing to in these ponderings of mine, is how much is really right there for us to see, but we can't because of conditioning, and purposeful lies. There is a lot of mystery surrounding the man Tesla. This idea that the brain is a receiver, points to the idea that the body, all bodies are AVATARS. exploring in a creation.
What we see around us is important. The terrestrial, solar, and cosmic energies involved are huge, interrelated, and self-perpetuating. Subject to stimulus and response. Both positive and negative feedback loops on many levels. We as a part of this interplay are important also. And we act to either contribute, amplify, dampen, or withdraw energy. If as you say, love is the opposite of fear, love is the opposite of evil, and love is represented as positive energy and beneficial feedback (I think we have ample evidence of that) and fear the opposite, then we exist in sort of a stasis. One must balance the other for stasis to occur. We sometimes mis-label the negative feedback and attendant results evil. But in reality they are necessary for balance.
And we put all this in context of our mind point of view. A construct to make sense of it all. A construct that is mostly given to us and can be manipulated by those with proclivity to do so. There certainly are humans wanting to do that. And have done so. It would certainly be possible that other entities would do likewise. But they are also part of that energy flow. Probably with greater understanding of interconnections and ultimate purpose. Yet they themselves are bit players in the grand scheme. This construct actually forms part of a mind model. It is either accepted as is or can be modified. Adjusted to suit tasks at hand. Or wholly rejected and replaced. And that is what enlightened beings would do. Trauma may be needed but not necessarily required to open that path. And once open, notice the trauma recedes in importance.
We humans try to assign too much value to our role here on earth and within the biome. But in reality we are in balance here just like any other organism. We live, die, return our borrowed matter to be recycled. All life depends on energy. Whether internal to geological, or chemical, or exogenous by light or cosmic energies. And it may be argued that geological and chemical reactions may be triggered by electrons, magnetism, or emanations from whatever source. Stasis can be maintained regardless of the amount of energy in total. Growth requires energy input. Disrupt the flow and death follows. Disrupt the balance and instability, possible collapse happens.
To nature we are just like any other organism. Be it bacteria, fungus, parasite. Some are useful. Some are not. There are plenty of examples throughout history where humans have lived in balance, even improving the local biosphere. Of course there are ample counter examples too. History is a great teacher. Nature and history transcend our short time here. Thus they are a foundation we should revere and always look to for guidance.
I always struggled with defining evil. For years I questioned its existence. Mainly because I had a hard time reconciling my Christian upbringing. Those teachings were contradictory and just did not fit my developing understanding of the world. Now I just define it as intentional acts to disrupt balance and life. You could call it anti-life I suppose. Be it against nature or nature’s inhabitants. Including human. So I don’t assign too much thought to it other than it exists in some balance with nature. And you encounter it occasionally or it may be pervasive. At times it can be powerful and definitely ruin your day. So best to be aware and have robust defense as best you can. The experience of pain would trigger a fear response. An important defense mechanism. And best not ignorred. But not to be obsessed. Unfortunately it can be co-opted the serve other interests.
Perhaps the earth serves as a node, or carrier wave in the grand scheme of the cosmos. Analogous to a resistor or capacitor in a circuit storing or releasing energy. And we are nothing more than perturbations on the wave. Noise. But there is still a huge amount of organization and energy in that noise, therefore it is important. We are energetic coding in that flow. Always there waiting for the right trigger to manifest and interact for good or evil, until an interaction occurs to send us back on the wave. A continuous interplay of life and death (in our construct terminology). Our bodies are biomechanical suits to interact with the energies already here in earth. Not quite a simulation as we have agency and we are materially real. As real as the rocks and trees.
I don’t have answers. Just observations.
Thank you for the thoughtful response. a lot to think about here. A short response is that we are in a place of tremendous imbalance. Evil seems to be a very deliberate interference to the Flow of life. We are at the point where this evil desires to control all life, towards the point of extinction of all life. The end of the Creative flow of life. What concerns me most is the very purposeful implementation of extreme suffering unleashed on the living beings of this world, destroying all life, and all potential. There is no reverence for life, but rather a push towards total dominance over life, and the stealth of all the resources that were so generously gifted to life in order to see its onward flow of discovery of infinite possibility.
Tremendous imbalance is a valid assessment. And it could lead to instability and collapse. But I look at the tremendous energies of the universe and feel confident that on some level the balance that the universe intends will occur. Unfortunately it may not be on our node.
It is true that so many have come and gone in the blink of an eye. Who am I to think I am more important than any other being...
Thank you Kara 🙏 More excellent questions. You take inquiry into the nature of reality into the next level and some 🙏💜🙏 I'd be lying if I said that these questions you ask I haven't asked myself.
I found my answers not in one place but, like you, in a million different places, such as the teachings of Hermes Trismegistus and the Emerald Tablets, I Ching, Lao Tzu, Tarot, Qabala, MBT, Stoicism, Quantum Physics, Sri Aurobindo, Paul Selig and The Guides, Jane Roberts and Seth Speaks, Buddhism, Christianity... As I say, a million different places.
My need to be "right" overcame my need to be "love"in the process, as my right brain overcame the left in an endless search that supplied endless theories and more endless questioning but, in the final analysis, analysis itself was found to insufficient because it lead to never ending enquiry.
I was chasing my own tail like the snake that eats eats itself. It was only when I learned to let Go and let God, that I could let it all come together of its own accord, in deep meditation. By sitting and letting everything just be.
In this, at last, I came into the rythms of my own inner knowing, and intuitively settled these questions within my higher self, Monad, Christ Consciousness. As within so without, the answer is inside you. You have the answer that you seek. You've always had it. The nature of Reality is the nature of You. Love is the answer 🙏💜🙏
Hi Elliot, Sounds like we have explored many of the same works. Through the shared ideas of other people, we pick up things we resonate with and things we do not. We keep moving along of course, because, well for me they do not answer anything fully. I don't see it chasing my tail, but continually exploring possibility, and opening my own perception. Many of these "teachers" those who share their perspective of reality, can actually limit us. I Ultimately Feel that LIFE is INFINITE POSSIBILITY. I look into the Nature of evil, because I see it as a disruption of the flow of life, which seems to be purposefully implemented in order to KEEP US FROM OUR TRUE POTENTIAL. I am not willing to settle for the idea that the evil we are seeing manifest in the world is actually a part of Nature, it is certainly not a part of me. I do actually find John St Julien's work helpful, because he is addressing the fallen world thrust on us, likely against our will, through what he describes as Alien Technology. I do know the answer is Ultimately inside of me, These essays are to show that evil is NOT the PLAN of the Creator, and for me the suffering of the innocent, especially the children needs to be NOTICED, taken serious, and dealt with.
Thank you Kara 🙏💜🙏 We agree on this and if you have the impression that I am refuting what you are saying, then I have failed to make myself clear. There is an evil matrix reality overlaying the true divinely created and sacred matrix reality that Is. They have been enmeshed together by evil forces that do not want us to live in our truth. We are born into the false matrix and must free ourselves of it to know ourselves as sacred and divine. Our innate divinity within our most pure love transmutes the negative energetic parasites embedded within our consciousness, to sanctify our awareness and to give us the discernment to distinguish good from evil. By this I do not mean the corrupted topsy turvy ideas that permeate three dimensional awareness. I'm speaking of higher consciousness unencumbered by false belief, ego and fear. Love is the answer because it's resonant properties raises the frequencies of consciousness to the point where we can do this. 🙏🙏🙏
Karafree,
Thank you again for a powerful, honest, and provocative post.
Some of the realizations that you communicate are deeply, essentially Gnostic in nature, and while Gnostics never claimed to have THE definitive view of life, and still don't, there is much in the Gnostic explanation that can reduce the sense of powerlessness that seems to accompany suffering.
For one, the world, you, everything is very real. There is no need to dismiss or deny, because the experience of reality simply affirms itself.
For two, meaning is situational, it can be assigned, denied, removed according to any mental set one approves of.
For three, there is a savage, undeniable requirement to suffering, and that is that life must simply pit itself against impossible obstacles. There is no moral equivalent, no divine battle of good vs evil, there is the struggle, and it is fucking intense.
one thing I can relate to in what you are saying is that EVERYTHING IS VERY REAL. EVEN if it is some kind of simulation, our participation in it makes it real, and I know I certainly FEEL it all, I certainly engage in it. And yes there is that objective or subjective aspect, as I mentioned, and I do think we have the power by our approval and focus on it.. You know, that saying What you focus on grows, what you resist persists.. there is something very TRUE about that.
Well, it's that situation that we EAT each other to LIVE.. that undeniable requirement to suffering.. In this case as you suggest no battle between good and evil, there is the struggle and its fucking intense, would suggest that the Universe is random and this is JUST how it evolved.
I wouldn't say exactly random, because random suggests something from a modern "scientific" hypothesis, whereby reality is limited to a physical explanation, and power, intelligences become imaginary.
Perhaps the idea should go something similar to this: the cosmos exploring its potential, and that potential exists beyond perceived limits, because the scope of this cosmos is defined by a parent, a source, and not by itself.
Some might think this lends creedence to the simulation theory of existence. I do not think that this is necessarily the case, and I am withdrawing any support I might have given to this idea primarily because it suggests a trivial nature to existence, where nothing here is taken seriously. If simulation theory was correct, the joke would be on all of us.
For some people I'm sure the removal of all impediments to their urges and impulses would be a desired state, but the cosmos doen't do that either. In a simulation it is contradictory to care, or get involved with anything, because nothing has any real agency.
If, instead of a simulation one was to see the descent from Source as a series of steps, and that each successive step is inferior to that which birthed it, one arrives at the mystical gnosis of a universe full of life and intelligence, but also one which develops greater limitation as it descends to its final reflection of what is above.
Therefore maybe we need the impact of a meaningless hell hole in order to remember that this place is a result, not a cause. Perhaps we need the cruel suffering to actually live the importance of love, to demonstrate viscerally how it can transform this stinkpot into a bed of flowers. The danger in all this is that it is so remarkably easy to just fall into the shit, just as this entire world has done. But if there isn't any risk there isn't any reward, and it becomes incumbent on us to refuse to sacrifice our humanity for hot ashes on a breeze.
"If there isn't any risk, there isn't any reward" That is a statement of beLIEf that I am tackling in these writings!. It is up to each of us to determine what rewards us in life and adventure. We do not need to design an adventure based on purposeful Risks meaning that we do not need risk to learn some thing, Risk is enjoyed by some as a challenge, I said "to be clear" I am not talking about this kind of challenge, Risk is a part of life naturally. Most people set out on their daily adventures doing their best to minimize risk. But none the less, no matter how much any of us try to protect ourselves, RISK is part of life. What I am pointing to goes way beyond risk and adventure. What I am pointing to is that we are presented with orchestrated challenges that seek to bring harm, unnecessary suffering and death. I know from my own experiences that I have gained reward and tremendous enjoyment without unnecessary risk involved.
Simulation theory makes sense on some level, but what I am pointing to is the TECHNOLOGY that we KNOW exists, and the technology that is hidden from us being used to deceive us. MIND CONTROL is their greatest weapon, to deceive us. it doesn't help that human perception is also very limited.
Simulation theory does not let us off the hook where responsibility is concerned, there are definitely rule sets. CAUSE AND EFFECT. Everyone of us is subject to the effect of our actions. Although, those who seem to run the world, and control the rest of us, SEEM to avoid the effects of their actions. materially speaking they are reaping all the benefits of their evil programs. while they commit mass murder, and create the PRISON walls that surround all of us.
They seem hell bent on manifesting their agenda, while enslaving us, they seem to be successful in having removed all impediments that would prevent them from their goals.
I always thought that Nature/the UNIVERSE doesn't give a you know what, if humans went extinct, it would carry on. But we certainly MUST care about Nature if we want to survive.
What is Source? Why would the inclination be to descend from Source, this sounds like the CONcept that Source had to know itself, to know it self it had to limit itself, it had to be something it is NOT... YET, SOURCE IS THE ALL, so that idea that it had to be what it is not... as in descend from itself does not make any sense. Another way to look at this is WHY Wouldn't Source move in the direction of infinite beauty, why did it take the route of pain and suffering?
The hellhole is not meaningless. The hellhole is the source of torment and suffering and for many, it is debilitating so that they have no chance of improving their own lives.
This idea that we need to learn lessons to grow would imply that Growth in these thousands of years of experimenting would have yielded something, BUT that is not the case. We are not learning. Well except that some of us are seeing the absolute DECEPTION of this programming that keeps us from our power to MAKE CHANGE.
What kind of Source is so depraved to destroy everything that it sent out to create? and in heinous ways to cause suffering so horrifying that it's SUBJECTS would fall into states of disassociation, and become incapable of knowing the self, and rising back up to their own Power?
They have programmed us to believe this is the Nature of reality, so that we all look away from the horror show and blame the victim for their circumstances.
I am lucky in the sense that I am not in a place of this kind of suffering, yet I see it out in the world and I see a very real cause. I see the perpetrators who are doing this to all living beings. The absolute focus on genocide... the desire to end LIFE as we know it. The plan to put an end to Human creativity, to capture and use it for their complete control over creation.
I do not believe we are in an illusion. What is happening is very real. But I can tell you that if this is really all a dream, the dream is not originating from my mind, or from the mind of most humans who wish only to experience love.
So like you say about the danger of falling into this stink pot is remarkably easy, It is not that it is easy, it has been forced upon us, by the STEALING of our power and the control of our minds through FEAR.
Like you I see the sacrifice of not only humanity but of all life, of all that is good, and I can't brush it off as my own ego trip, or that this is my lesson to learn... which would be what? to examine my own mind? to leave those to their lessons, to look away, to pretend that it isn't happening? To trick myself into thinking its just an illusion? BTW Illusion, simulation, what's the difference? Yet look how many embrace the concept that everything is an illusion, if you realize that you can sit back on your meditation blanket and will it away, then what is the point? If you can dream it away, then are you avoiding the lessons you came to learn, If you can determine that it is all just a dream, then are you voiding the lesson plan?
When you let it go in your own mind, it GOES AWAY in the WORLD, IS THAT TRUE?
Interesting, I do think we are talking about completely different world views here. I do think we understand that risk is very much an aspect of life?
Perhaps its been my experience, of what seems to me to be an inordinant amount of challenges. Risk is what makes mastery pleasurable, Kara.
Its ironic because of the way all this works, Zen on steroids.
If we are going to discuss the why's behind creation, we have to begin with some perspective, so I don't think we can begin with suffering, evil, pain. It is clear that such states are results of experience, not the very fabric of life. Given this, such states are inferior to creation itself. They are not ultimate principles.
The why behind creation is because source both exists and doesn't exist, lives and never lives. When seen in such a way, all of creation naturally just is when it is, it flows, but just as source is contradictory, so is creation.
Thus it is possible for there to be entire populations of higher and lower beings, all of whom are the intelligences of their own spheres, and these beings can experience fascination, and desire, and as the flow of emanation continues it becomes more limited, less aware, smaller, cthonic even.
So, it doesn't have to be the case that there is any meaning to suffering, pain, evil. In fact, I argue there isn't meaning to be found there, only meaning assigned, which is something else, yes?
Now, if we are going to bring in actual efforts by the over privileged in society to turn their fellow men into their playthings, I find it is a grave error to place this effort with the forces of creation.
You brought up MK-Ultra, which supposedly is done as an example. Well, there is nothing here that participates in the flow of emanation, it is its own dead end. This, and other examples exist because they mimic the more cthonic, the by-product. The evil and suffering they cause is again, very real, but it isn't because source endowed them with any special ability.
So, in the sense that this level of emanation is a result of a higher and more complete essence, one could, perhaps choose to describe it as a simulation, but this popular view cannot even begin to explain the interplay of life here, it just defers the explanation.
I don't believe I ever stated that life itself was a dream, that life was an ersatz experience, or that one could just wake up from it all. I have stated, and continue to state that dreams are real, and not everyone has them, but there is a difference between dreaming something into being, and life simply being a dream.
I agree that you did not state that life was a dream, and you do not think we are in a simulation either. I was reiterating my point being: "Life is a dream/illusion is a false beLIEf that many fall for." Looking at this belief is very important, when we look at how so few of us rise to change what we do not like, or what makes us suffer, could it be because, like you said, " Simulation theory suggests a trivial nature to existence, where nothing here is taken seriously. If simulation theory was correct, the joke would be on all of us."
I agree about the difference you point out, we are in a dream, compared to we have the ability to dream something into our existence, or what I call our creativity and our imagination.
Yes MK ULTRA, if I understand you correctly is an attempt to stifle true creativity and replace it with control, subjugation and stopping the natural flow.
We agree, the evil being caused by certain groups, does not come from Source, is not a plan, was not implemented in order to Learn Lessons, but rather stop the natural flow.
But even more important what is Source?
If there is no Source, then what is intending? What is dreaming? The Universe is just Flowing... Which means that no one came here to learn lessons under the directive of a Source Being.
I have said in many ways, that I do not think that EVIL was the original intention here, IF there is a SOURCE, which then brings me to the point I am continuing to make, that we are NOT here to Learn Lessons...the main point of my essay. So it appears that we agree on this as well.
So absolutely you and I agree that there is meaning ASSIGNED to the purpose of evil. I argue that it is a false and detrimental assignment/false belief that keeps us from the FLOW of our TRUE Nature as creative and imaginative beings. In Fact this kind of assignment requires us to accept our fate, and give up our power. This does not need a Source to make this true, it just needs a belief in a Source who would require this of us.
But, here is a thought about SOURCE. Source is a word we use when we imply that there is a creator of this universe/reality, and it had an intention to CREATE, for the purpose as many say, to know itself experientially. What exactly did source create? A simulation perhaps? A dream perhaps? An Illusionary world perhaps? A stage to act upon perhaps? Or a very REAL and vibrating ALIVE and AWARE Universe?
Speaking on the grave issue of the Over privileged, and their GAME plan;
If Source "created a 'playground'" is True, so be it, but, then it raises the question for me, Why did Source dream up and send in Subjects, players, living beings, Avatars, entities, Conscious unites of Energy, and then limit them and saddle them with an obligation to Learn lessons? This makes no sense!! What would make more sense, is that Source simply sent Unique players with specific scripts to act out. That would then imply that we do not have free will, but are following our script. Which, by the way is what astrology is all about. WHERE ARE WE PLAYING ALL THIS OUT? In an infinite Universe or on a stage within a simulation, in a dream? As a little girl I played with Barbies, and I acted out their Character, that I dreamed up and their lives for them, maybe I did have them learning lessons, or living a life I could only imagine to live, what a human mind right? Seriously, the MIND of a CHILD no less. Is this who Source is? A Human mind?
There do seem to be levels of Intelligence. These intelligences (if you can call them intelligent) Would use their intelligence to destroy what is less then, or what they deem unfit. They carry out these forms of genocide of the lesser intelligent through mind control, and creating scenarios that bring about great fear and suffering. There are MANY who do not wake up to the mind control they are subjugated to and continue to live in helpless and dire situations that are truly life sapping. So, in a sense, yes the flow of life and possibility is being tapped, weakened, stolen, limited, less aware as you point to. My study into this and why it happens points to an Intelligence that is deliberately bringing this about, for its benefit. An intelligence that I would not identify as an ALL KNOWING creative being we call Source. So once again I do think we agree, on this nature of evil, is a by product of inferior thinking processes, This has nothing to so with Source or absence of a Source Creator.
So, all I am saying about risk, is that While it is part of life, the levels that are being deliberately manufactured are not necessary for improvement or learning especially not to gain some reward. Risk is not a requirement to experience reward, reward can be experienced without first experiencing suffering and pain. I point to this idea that "pain is required to motivate and learn something, is false", and may be holding us back from realizing our true power. This concept was intentionally drilled into us, till it was deeply implanted into our sub conscious minds, and NOW many of us are creating scenarios where we actually seek out tribulation, to grow, and become Whole. When in Truth we were never broken.
Some of the issues we have with source derive from our need to personify it.
When we personify any potential, we invariably attach person-like motivations to them. Yet in truth, we never ask if this is a valid activity.
Do you know that in cultures that have discovered the Demiurge there is rarely a human representation? William Blake in the truly great Poem Tyger Tyger sure seemed to be illustrating this.
Ultimately, the ability of the human mind to create simulations is missing one key element, humans do not ever create agency in anything they make. Its always up to that human to provide that agency via participation. Even when the great Druid Math of Mathonwy co-created Blodduwedd from wild flowers, she descended into dissipation, mocking their efforts.
There is something about life that even the greatest of masters are helpless before.
We know that source is a genuine phenomenon because of this fact.
Ive had long conversations with those who claim there is no source, no cause, its just things being moved around. It makes me very sad to listen to such talk, even as I respect those who advance this, because it is utterly impossible for such a condition to exist.
However, within such a world view I detect a key to the thinking and belief behind the WEF, the alphabet agencies, the lust for unlimited abuse unleashed and control. I see a circuitry mind that imagines its godhood lies in better circuits.
In a sense, its no different, other than intype, from those who declare that life is a litany of lessons, just learn your lessons like a good little child and you will be rewarded!
Indeed.
We believe so much from dysfunctional world views we inherit.
So much of what people assume is fact is actually just explanation, and not often very good explanation. Abrahamic religion fits into this complex, and politics, and identity itself. If we could understand that our explanations are interpretations-at best, and not exalted fact, life here would change dramatically.
According to the people directing our LARP reality, God, after creating the world wanted to pour his divine light in 10 vessels. But silly God underestimated the force of his divine light so the vessels exploded and the contents scattered into his creation. Before they can return to God, all the light has to be freed and in their believe it is their task to free it from very dark and evil places. Redemption through sin.
I, the not-them, are just pawns to be directed, cattle without a soul, to be herded in any which way they please. They have given us two opposing religions; one of the sun and one of the moon and told both of them in their 'prophecies' that one must slay the other before their messiah will return. As we speak, the ones in control are playing out that script complete with officials paraphrasing from their 'holy' books and the gullible believers lap it up, having falling for the idea that things MUST get real bad before THEIR messiah will come. It makes them selfish and subdued, exactly as the ones directing our reality like their cattle to be.
I really can relate to this view.. the part about the LARP playing their parts and not even having a clue. the pawns... I think I am on the outside looking in on this Theater, yet I let my heart get dragged into it and I want to wake up the Live action roll players.. maybe the are NOT alive?
You are not outside, I am not outside; we are in it. Awake to some things, asleep to others but until we ACT upon what we know and stop participating as much is possible, we have become conscious LARP participants, aiding in our own destruction.
True ignorance really is bliss but to be aware and not act is creating a hell of our own making.
"True ignorance really is bliss but to be aware and not act is creating a hell of our own making."
That is the point of my essay. to ignore something that you can see is happening is allowing the HELL WORLD to continue. I just can't accept some of these "beLIEF" programs that suggest we ignore it, meditate it away, call it an illusion, determine that it is in the plans of some higher power.. and on and on with this reasoning, that NEVER stops this horror. The MK ULTRA mind control programming through the delivery of severe trauma that induces FEAR, which breaks down our power to respond correctly is victimizing all of us. The "state of mind and perception" that those who inflict these traumas want us to reach is DISASSOCIATION. This ALLOWS them to continue the attacks.
Yes, I agree with you completely. Sadly they are succeeding in pushing their state of apathy and I wonder where it will lead humanity. The only solution to this global problem is humanity taking power back in an selfless way. Understanding we need to care for the world and each other together, that selfish behaviour will damage the community/nature.
I agree with the others here: you ARE a writer!! I always love reading what you write to know what you're contemplating.
I'm at the point in my own pursuit of truth where I relinquish the need to know. I don't know where we are or why we're here. I do know that I follow my inner compass for guidance and it always leads me away from causing harm and towards creating, loving. and enjoying the pleasures our realm provides like beauty, nature, food, and laughter That's all I really know anymore. ❤️
Thank you Jacqueline for coming by and your interest, and your compliment, I guess it was a dormant talent, who knew..
GIRL!!! You got it going on!! I admire that about you. Your easy and peacefulness certainly shows. I too follow my inner guidance, always with the intention of creating beauty.
But as you can see, AS THEY SAY: "Just asking for a friend" LOL...
but who knows maybe it's my calling to help others in some way. and in turn give of my creative gifts too. I do know that you do this too in your own way. Your talents bring joy to others.
"I too follow my inner guidance, always with the intention of creating beauty."
GIRRRL!! I know you do! ;)
It was when I first saw your beautiful paintings that I really knew this about you. And then the amazing dog family you've created. Your heart is obviously HUGE.
Thank you for your admiration. That means a lot to me, my sister. ❤️
I'm of the mind that every single loving act one commits is 'helping others'.
Yes your talent brings joy to others I forgot to mention and me too.
I know what you are pointing to here... The day we met... the idea that where attention goes energy flows, and what you resist persists.. yes I think there is truth in all of this.. yet I think, some of us need to be thrown the life saver... let it hit them on the head and wake them up... LOL I also agree that every single act focused for the better, focused in love resonates out into the world and helps others. thank you for that reminder
You already have a clear idea of my thinking on suffering, both of human and non-human animals. There is nothing to be learned or gained from suffering of any form or degree, only that you want it to end. And soon.
Now, here is what I learned in my 66 years on Earth. Apart from diseases, illnesses and accidents, most suffering of human and non-human animals comes at the hands of humans. That's right: Humans.
That is my view, and it is supported by the history of wars, violence, aggression, torture, forced confinement, imprisonment that humans inflict on human and non-human animals. Inflicting poverty is another form of normalized violence, and so is discrimination of any form.
Both religion and secular beliefs and ideologies support and inflict suffering. It is a deeply rooted human problem. It is deeply ingrained in Humanity. The first solution is awareness of the human problem. Solutions can only come when recognition and awareness is globally understood. Seriously understood.
The answer is love, understanding, sympathy, sharing, cooperation. But Humanity is, for the most part, stuck in domination, exploitation and competition.
Yes I hear you loud and clear, and I agree. I was attempting to point out that our human failings are orchestrated, purposefully to remove our love and replace it with fear, through all these programs they inflict on us, and false beliefs that hypnotize us into a state of helplessness/weakness and then destroy our TRUE NATURE and creativity. Thank you for your comment Perry!
I think we are at the same wavelength, @Karafree. Peace & Love..🕊🦜
“ (Let me be clear…..” I am so glad you included this clarification because this has been my stumbling block in this discussion. So I can wholeheartedly agree with what you are sharing about suffering.
The sadistic Harlow experiments on infant rhesus monkeys come to mind. I learned about them in my psychology degree and at the time, was so disconnected from myself that I didn’t experience the horror of them…I was simply interested in the findings 🤪
Now, as a mature adult and mother it is a no brainer. Of course when electric shocked or threatened with electric shock, the infant is going to seek comfort over food. After centuries of life experience and passing down of culture and wisdom, we seriously need to do experiments like that!!! WTF!!!!
I studied psychology to learn more about human behaviour to make life better. But I have since learned the ways the knowledge has been used to control and manipulate. There was a moment I thought the field of psychology had been hijacked. But it seems increasingly clear that the funding and support for the discipline has had nefarious purposes from the beginning…not unlike engineering, chemistry, physics, biology etc
I am not certain of who the nefarious ones are…if we are in a simulation or something else…but like the Harlow experiments, I don’t think we need to examine it to know the truth . We already know what love is, what it looks and feels like. All we need to do is recognise what isn’t love when it is in front of us, and move away from it. The rest of the time cultivate the conditions around us and the people we know, for love to flourish.
I have had a recent awareness that I feel is related. I perceive that our world is only light. There is no darkness, only shadow. The light is always there, it is obstacles casting shadow that block the light.
Your recent awareness is interesting, The truth is always there, what is the obstacle that attempts to block it?
I’m making this up as I go along, as I haven’t fully thought through this as an analogy for truth… but I am inclined to say, any form that casts a shadow is an obstacle to the light. I guess then, the characteristics or qualities of shadow give some clue to what the obstacle is…size, shape, orientation or proximity to the light, opacity, motion. Although the shadow is often much larger than the form that is the obstacle…giving the appearance of something much more ominous. Alternatively, a very large form in just the right orientation will cause little obstacle, casting a minimal shadow.
I’m having a flashback to my favourite childhood verse by Robert Louis Stevenson….
” I had a little shadow, that went in and out with me,
And what could be the use of him was more than I could see….”
I need to look the rest up and think on this some more 🤔
that's a cool poem, I take it to mean, that the shadow is a form of wrong thinking, of false beliefs being lived out as truth. When the shadow "stayed in bed" He saw the light that made the buttercups so beautiful. I think he is also pointing to a balance. He woke before the sun was up,,, He saw the shining dew . Sounds like a state of Harmony between both sides. Full light and full shadow. Very interesting,
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What a beautiful and touching statement.. So true, you've given a perfect example of the false notion that we NEED to have these contrasts/opposites to KNOW what truth actually is. If only we could SEE the harm this kind of thought has allowed us to do to others in the name of learning. breaks my heart the suffering. Speaking of experiments, I mean, just think of the MK Ultra ones, or the Alfred Kinsey studies on infants and children and sexuality. Something that I contemplate, is that A creator ultimately KNOWS his full creation, so why allow this kind of abuse in the first place.. this is why we need to examine everything we have been told about Where we are , Why we are here and who we truly are.
You are officially a writer! Fact!
Never you worry about getting your point across.
Mission accomplished & then some!
Lots to digest here. .....I'll be back :)
thank you!! for the support! and thanks for stopping by. <3 <3
PS I still seem to be unable to like each poster post when I use my lap top.
funny, I liked your comment and it didn't show up.. devil's playing with you! LOL
I always like to be devil’s advocate. Because there are two sides here. And one side obviously feeds off the other’ sufferings. So that suffering is ….some people would say, energy on the negative downward that is needed to keep them going. Your suffering is some else happiness basically, that is how I understand “evil”. That happiness fills them up with joy. As you said at the beginning in the headline….then ….love creates a hateful world because there is "their” negative energy.
But if we look at nature there is suffering within its creatures and there is no good or bad there is just …..IS…other animals eaten by predators, nature destruction of flora and its fauna. If we look at nature and equal that to god then the entire creation is based on this mantra.
I mean then suffering actually begins with creation.
I do not have the answer for why WE EAT EACH OTHER TO LIVE.. for all I know it is part of the evil operating system.
Also if I were a god “creator” I would not want experience anything but I would want my creation to experience what I already experienced and know. Like a parent. Would a parent want their children to suffer for no reason? Wouldn’t a parent want to promote a culture of love instead?
I think that way too. Only a parent void of Love would have that inclination to destroy the child. So these "beliefs" that we have about this reality really need to be examined, and that is what I am looking at. thank you for your comments
But a sadomasochist, narcissist parent would. Let's do not forget that. Unconceivable to us but not to someone else.
to me this type of person is living in fear and lacking in Love, has no compassion, or empathy, no response ABILITY to another because they have NO LOVE. which translates to me, no respect for life. As I said in my post:
We Came here to EXPERIENCE LOVE through the MEDIUM OF LIFE. without Love, life is destructive
love is not creating evil. the lack or absence of love is what brings about evil, FEAR brings about evil,
Your thought Suffering actually begins with creation is what I am tackling here. Suffering is an ill effect of lack of LOVE. I am suggesting that "suffering is creation" is a false belief. which leads to destruction of creation, the negative of creating
"I am not a writer so much, I may have to work on my ability to share my message, I can understand that I may be misinterpreted."
Kara, no - please don't ever doubt your ability to communicate this. And bringing words to this is important. You're still processing this data, and just like when you were crying in class and needed to process, that's this too - there is so much unprocessed passion and raw emotion coming through your words because you are still in the middle of processing, ironically, how this particular revelation is causing you to suffer with the pain of how heavy it is and the implications of that.
Keep writing and writing and writing about it. The more you release, the more you process, the clearer you will get until you distill your thoughts down to their core.
This is brilliant. And necessary. Your mind is NOT boxed in - you are equipped to see past the lies that keep us in check. Please keep going!!!! 🙏🏻💜💫
Sending my love!!! 🥰❤️
Yes, my goal is to be free of limits to the Creative potential that is within.. Within us all.. So powerful. So glad you see that too! once again too I was inspired by today's morning post of yours, regarding the benevolent Universe!
Thank you so much!! ☺️🙏🏻💜💫
haha NOW I'm really crying! Thank you Demi!
Sending you so much love!! Yeah, it's HARD to communicate what we're still processing but the raw emotion fuels the inspiration behind it - you will hit a sweet spot where your thoughts come into clearer focus if you just keep going. I promise.
You should look at some of my earlier pieces where I was flailing with 2020 anger and confusion. Oof.
But eventually I came around to a sort of detached clarity from which it makes it a lot easier to explain my thoughts without my own nervous dysregulation causing a dysregulation reaction in others that would make it somewhat impossible for them to really hear what I'm saying because they are too busy, at that point, dealing with their own emotions in having reacted to my emotions attached to what I said.
It creates a negative feedback loop. Communicating from a detached standpoint once you've processed it yourself has a way of providing a positive signal interrupt that stops the emotional looping and lets everyone come to the subject matter in a more open way.
There's a portal you will pass through into clarity if you just keep at this and let your emotions flow out as they resolve.
And good on you for having the courage to say things you know others are going to push back on!! I love it!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
wow, thank you for that, I am going to ponder on this lol... anais nin said this and it's where I am coming from with out fear
And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom
I love that!!! ❤️🥰❤️
There does appear to be an inordinate amount of fear mongering and threat of pain and suffering as a control mechanism in our history. It is also very tempting to frame this control mechanism as some form of alien or demonic source. I often go down those rabbit holes and ponder the possibility myself - I like to refer to such entities as The Archons and I believe that they are real in some sense, but cannot say for certain because it is a theory that I have not found any incontrovertible evidence for.
If we remove the 'reality' of such a theory and merely use the Archons as an allegory for evil, I think we can come to a more objective perspective on evil and the function it serves in our world.
If I understand what you are saying in this article correctly, it seems to me that you believe the evil and the suffering it causes are unnecessary - it is, in fact, a superfluous addition to all of the pain and suffering that is already part of life. I agree wholeheartedly with that sentiment - there absolutely are people who seem to get off on pain and fear and suffering, they like to push agendas that increase pain and suffering. These types of people can be described as demons, aliens, reptilians, shapeshifters, - whatever box you want to put them in, human or not, they have one defining characteristic - they appear to be driven by creating misery on this planet.
This comes down to a spiritual battle, a battle where you really do not know the enemy because they hide in the guise of regular people. They are very often people in positions of power who make grand claims of wanting to save the planet and serve humanity. The best we can do to defend ourselves and others against such people is to learn to identify them and their tactics and create counter defences to deter their nefarious agendas. Love, as you pointed out, is a powerful weapon in such a spiritual war. Knowledge is as well.
Frater Seamus, I am grateful for your comment, and your articulating what I am pointing to. When we identify that there are agendas working against us, We can turn to compassion for those who suffer rather than ignoring/blaming/reasoning, because they chose it. Archons, the controller of THOUGHT, who create the egregores we believe in and attach to and then act upon entangling us even more in false narratives, pulling us even farther from our Truth. Yes I think there is a battle for sure, a battle for life, a battle for our Spiritual integrity as well.
I think we are smarter and more capable then we know. And this is the case because as ive tried so many times to explain. Humans have been stockholmed.. Conditioned into helplessness and servitude. But I Know you know. I know you see what is going on. I also know what man has accomplished just look at what we are capable of creating. Now if only we could fully take back our focus and put it on what is good.